1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 So what was the big thing that happened in the last year? 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,000 I had a baby. 3 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:07,160 And that? I did IVF. Okay, that's what I figured. 4 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:10,680 Transparency. That's what I figured. I did IVF. I had eggs frozen a long time 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,840 ago. Okay. And it's funny, too, because I was actually not going to keep them. 6 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:18,820 Because, you know, at a certain point in time, you say, well, I mean, I'm, you 7 00:00:18,820 --> 00:00:19,599 know, 102. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,800 I can't have a kid anymore. So why keep these eggs frozen, you know? Yeah, yeah, 9 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:23,860 yeah. 10 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:27,420 So it was getting that time that I said, you know, is it really worth? 11 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:32,000 It's like almost $800 a year to – To keep and maintain? Yeah. Okay. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,280 So I said, eh, it's – Storage units are more expensive. Yeah, exactly. 13 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:38,120 You pay like $200 a month. 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,740 Anyway. Well, I mean, yeah, but then, you know, you also have to consider the 15 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:46,160 health of the egg. Sure, the viability of it. Yeah. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,320 So – How old were you when you got that, when you got them frozen? 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Or how long ago was that? 18 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:55,320 Mid -40s, early 40s. Okay. I mean, still considered old. 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Yeah. I mean, for – Childbearing. Yeah. Still considered old. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,340 But you were still producing. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was still healthy and good to go. 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,080 I actually tried doing it another way. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,400 There's a doctor in Greece for an IVF clinic that they do 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:21,060 platelet -rich plasma, you know, PRP. And what they do is they spin it, 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,360 get your plasma, and inject it into your ovaries. 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Because I wanted to. 27 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:31,950 try the natural way true because at the time i was with a boyfriend it's the 28 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:36,490 most fun way i think too yeah i mean random cool it would be the first baby 29 00:01:36,490 --> 00:01:42,870 him and yeah you know um i think i don't like to say that god intervened or 30 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:47,930 whatever because i think that whatever comes our way um god gives us the tools 31 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:51,390 to survive it yeah yeah or or the universe or whatever you want whatever 32 00:01:51,390 --> 00:01:55,830 whatever you want to believe yeah you know he ignited in me something that i I 33 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:59,930 just had to confront, you know, and that was that I really wanted to have a 34 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:05,130 baby. I wanted to have a baby 28 years ago when my daughter was two. Yeah. You 35 00:02:05,130 --> 00:02:08,070 know, my daughter will be 30 in November. 36 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:09,389 Okay. And. 37 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:12,890 Were you already in this mindset when you came on the show last year? 38 00:02:13,330 --> 00:02:16,150 Oh, yeah. No, I knew. So you were like on that pathway. 39 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:17,289 Yeah. Okay. 40 00:02:17,290 --> 00:02:20,930 Uh, when was it that I came on the show? I think it was February of last year. 41 00:02:20,950 --> 00:02:25,930 Okay. So we met at ABN and then you came. My transfer was in May. 42 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:31,030 Okay. So I knew I was already doing it. I went to the doctor in Greece, tried 43 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:34,690 that. It did not work. So I said, well, fuck it. And then I was just going to 44 00:02:34,690 --> 00:02:36,250 give up after the boyfriend situation. 45 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:41,830 And then I just had a heart to heart with myself. And I said, you know, this 46 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:44,430 something I really want. And financially I'm in the. 47 00:02:44,810 --> 00:02:46,850 In the ability zone, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 48 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:53,190 When I had my daughter, ooh, I'm going to tell you, for as tumultuous as our 49 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:59,590 relationship can be, we have a very concrete relationship. She will always 50 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:01,230 my number one. Yes. 51 00:03:01,570 --> 00:03:04,490 Because we survived things together. 52 00:03:04,830 --> 00:03:10,770 Yeah. You know, we survived so much together. And yes, I wish it had not 53 00:03:10,770 --> 00:03:11,728 that way. 54 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:13,330 But if wishes were fishes, right? 55 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:16,940 We did it. We survived. 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:23,100 We are who we are now, and it's a fantastic thing that we have learned and 57 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:25,120 grown, and this is where we are. 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,660 That's just the way it is. Yeah, yeah. No, life deals you cards, and you play 59 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:30,160 the cards you're dealt. Exactly, exactly. 60 00:03:31,180 --> 00:03:36,140 But fortunately, I don't have to replay that because now I'm financially 61 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:39,880 capable, and I can make money and not leave my home. 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,140 Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the beauties of what you do. You know, and I make 63 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:47,960 enough that I can afford a nanny. Yeah. So that's the direction I went. You can 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,960 be here to do this. 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Precisely. You know. And a little bit late because the nanny was late. It's 66 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,840 okay. It's okay. 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,620 But so I decided to have a baby. 68 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,820 It was, you know, I did sit down and really, really think hard and long about 69 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:05,380 it. And I asked everybody in my life, what do you think of this? And some 70 00:04:05,380 --> 00:04:06,380 were like. 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,860 I'm sure that you got. 72 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:11,550 And other people were like, well, hell, you know, if that's what you want, 73 00:04:11,630 --> 00:04:12,589 Debra, do it. 74 00:04:12,590 --> 00:04:15,070 I mean. Call me Debra or Ryan, whatever. 75 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:15,969 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 76 00:04:15,970 --> 00:04:19,990 But so I ended up doing the IVF. 77 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:24,890 They created embryos. They took, I had 20 eggs. Okay. 78 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:26,490 On freezer. 79 00:04:26,750 --> 00:04:31,910 Okay. And they took 10. I specifically told them not to take the full batch. 80 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:33,010 Yeah. Why? 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,060 I don't know, but something tells me to reserve some just in case it hits the 82 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:42,340 fan. Yeah. So, and maybe not for me. You never know. Like, my daughter could 83 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:45,720 have a problem. Your genetic code should live on. 84 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:47,980 You know, it's funny. 85 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:52,060 Well, you know. The essence that is you should keep going. You just never know. 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,460 No, I know. Like, I have a daughter. I might, you know, or maybe my, I had a 87 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:00,920 son. And, you know, you never know. People. 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,480 People, the infertility rates going up, you just never know. 89 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:11,680 So. So they made eggs. Yes. They took my eggs. They made embryos. Took 10 eggs, 90 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,300 made embryos. Five of them survived the process. 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,300 Okay. Apparently it's a difficult process. So they implant all of them at 92 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,020 No, no. Okay. I ended up with two boys, three girls. Okay. Yes, I wanted to know 93 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:24,599 the sex. 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,660 Okay. I chose a boy. Okay. 95 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:28,780 They take one. 96 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:30,710 And they implanted. Okay. 97 00:05:31,210 --> 00:05:35,630 This fertility center said they do not do twins, which I wanted to do very bad 98 00:05:35,630 --> 00:05:40,410 because I thought, you know, let's get her done. I didn't want to have an only 99 00:05:40,410 --> 00:05:41,510 child, to be honest with you. 100 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:45,690 There's a special connection twins have with each other. Of course. Like even 101 00:05:45,690 --> 00:05:46,690 more so than regular siblings. 102 00:05:47,030 --> 00:05:47,469 Yes, of course. 103 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:48,470 Of course. 104 00:05:49,210 --> 00:05:52,150 But I really was doing it for ease of. 105 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:58,150 my age sure you know let's let's knock it out that way i don't have to by the 106 00:05:58,150 --> 00:06:03,090 way um i will be doing it again next year really yeah oh wow okay uh i don't 107 00:06:03,090 --> 00:06:08,550 like kids being only children yeah i think they deserve a friend and they 108 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:11,170 deserve somebody who's close in their age and a little bit of competition yeah 109 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:15,810 and yes they deserve somebody close enough that they're still because now 110 00:06:15,810 --> 00:06:20,320 like your son has a almost 30 year old sister yeah who could who might Could be 111 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,060 a mom. Could be. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, old enough to be a mother. Yeah. 112 00:06:24,460 --> 00:06:28,740 Double. Yeah. I mean, kids are having 15 years old having kids. Yeah. 113 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:31,260 Exactly. She can twice over be a mother. 114 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:35,540 So they implanted that. It worked. It went well. 115 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:38,200 I'm going to tell you it was rough for a bit. 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,220 Yeah. I was going to ask you. How was the pregnancy? 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,540 Oh, my God. The pregnancy was great. Really? Okay. But the first part of the 118 00:06:45,540 --> 00:06:47,060 pregnancy, they are. 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,740 The pre -pregnancy, they build up your placenta. You do injectables. 120 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:56,700 I had to wear this patch of nitroglycerin. 121 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Oh, my God. 122 00:06:58,940 --> 00:07:03,460 That was the worst, I think. Wow. Because it gives you a really bad 123 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:10,940 What it's doing is it's increasing blood flow. Okay. So it's either for heart 124 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:11,940 patients. 125 00:07:13,390 --> 00:07:16,070 I think it's if you're starting to have a heart attack. Yeah, because they give 126 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:17,070 nitroglycerin pills. 127 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:21,070 Right, and you put it under your tongue and it brings you out of it. But I want 128 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:24,310 to say it's because it increases blood flow. 129 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:29,850 But anyway, it was building the placenta. That's what they were focused 130 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:36,710 building the lining of my uterus. And I don't know that it was my natural 131 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:38,070 process was bad. 132 00:07:38,670 --> 00:07:42,150 But they wanted to be sure that it was tip -top so that I didn't lose it. The 133 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:43,150 best chance of success. 134 00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:44,170 Correct. Correct. 135 00:07:44,450 --> 00:07:46,190 And the pregnancy went great. 136 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:47,610 Really? Oh, yeah. 137 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:52,050 I'm going to say that the only time I really had, like, because it's not my 138 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:58,110 first rodeo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know, you know, for morning 139 00:07:58,110 --> 00:07:59,770 sickness, it's because you're hungry. 140 00:08:00,070 --> 00:08:03,850 Yeah. So eat something. And, like, just make sure that right when you get up, 141 00:08:03,850 --> 00:08:07,450 you drink something or eat something so that something's on your stomach. 142 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:13,130 But would you say your body was a little different in your, say, late 20s than 143 00:08:13,130 --> 00:08:14,670 when it was now? Oh, a thousand percent, yeah. 144 00:08:15,490 --> 00:08:18,770 I had my daughter when I was 24. 145 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:20,370 Okay, so mid -20s, yeah. 146 00:08:20,650 --> 00:08:24,570 Yeah, and yes, a thousand times over there were differences. Yeah.